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if you are looking for a rugged super durable pair of leather engineer boots, these are not your boots. The leather quality is terrible. The sole is well made but the leather is cheap and thin. The left and right boot fit differently. Chippewa makes excellent boots normally but missed the mark on these. I returned them immediately. Go with Wesco, Frye or Mr. Freedom for boots that will last. Nothing against Schott NYC, they make great leather jackets and coats. I was hoping the boots they sold were similar quality.