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Will it grow?

Hello Schott/ fellow members, I have been looking to buy a perfecto jacket for a long time (I live in Belgium, so getting my hands on one is pretty tough) and when I was in Den Haag last Monday, I paid a visit to your brand store, and couldn't resist the temptation to buy one. It was the last 618 they had in stock and it's a size 40. Now I'm 6.3" athletic build. The jacket fits nicely on the waist and when I keep my arms next to my body the length of the sleeves is perfect. However, I have bought this jacket with the intention of using it for riding my motorcycle, and when I sit on it, my sleeves cut back quite a bit and reveal about 1,5" of my arm. Also the back of the jacket tends to creep u a bit and reveal a part of my lower back. The front is perfect a little higher because it would end up getting in the way of my legs. Here comes my question: I have never had a steer hide jacket, so I don't know if it will stretch and mold to my body a bit or not? Will my sleeves grow a little? I know that Schott makes 118L which could be a better fit for me at first, but maybe grow to long over time (like my last motorcycle jacket did). Anyway, any input or advice is appreciated.

Gail on 08/01/14 at 08:53 AM

I am sorry to inform you that the leather in the jacket will not grow. Based on your height at 6' 3" you definitely need the 118L in the long size, especially since you ride. I can only guess that your last jacket was a very thin leather that stretched, which any good leather should not do. Leather should break in and conform to your body with wear, but it should not stretch. I really have no advise for you as you cannot make the jacket longer, my only suggestion would be to try and sell the 618 or possibly trade the jacket for one in a long size on Ebay. Gail

scarfmace on 08/01/14 at 09:30 AM

Hey Gail, Thank you for your quick reply. My previous jacket was from Harley Davidson and it fit perfect when I bought it, but not snug like this one. The leather was real thick cowhide, but now (after 5 years of intense wear and use) it's just to lose, like it just went up one size. The sales person in Den Haag told me in the store that they tend to grow a little and because of this I bought it... at 820€ I had rather he told me the truth and place an order down for the 118L... What size would you recommend for the 118L?

Gail on 08/01/14 at 10:40 AM

The Steerhide and Naked cowhide are actually both cowhide leathers and both the same weight and thickness. We use the term Steerhide for the 618 because this leather has a slight finish applied to the leather. The Naked Cowhide leather has no finish applied has a matte appearance and a softer hand. The patterns for the 618 you have now and the patterns for the 118L are different with the 118L having a more updated fit, not just the length being longer. I would suggest you email Jerri in our customer service, I have listed her email address below, and request she send you the specs for the 618 & the 118L you can than compare the measurement differences to the jacket you have now in the size 40. Since you just purchased the jacket and if it is unworn, can you return it and purchase the 118L? Gail email:

Monitor on 08/02/14 at 07:49 AM

Scarfmace, another thing for you to take into consideration is that if anything, on jackets made from thick and substantial leather, the sleeves will undoubtedly shorten on you with time, for at least half an inch or more, as the creases will develop where you fold your arms as you wear the jacket so yeah, that seller either knows nothing about leather or was deliberately trying to rip you off.

richgreene on 08/03/14 at 09:45 PM

Steerhide stops growing after they kill the cow

scarfmace on 08/04/14 at 03:37 AM

But maybe mine is not dead yet? How can I tell? :)

Monitor on 08/04/14 at 08:06 AM

Send it to me and I'll let you know. I know of these things. ;)

scarfmace on 08/04/14 at 09:48 AM

Still no reply from Schott NYC Holland... They don't pick up their Phone either...

Gail on 08/04/14 at 07:10 PM

Unfortunately I do not have listings of individual retailers so I do not know who in Holland is selling our jackets. You can view our full list of International distributors on our website that supple the retailers in their areas with jackets. You can contact the distributor closest to you and request retailers in your area that sell the schott jackets. At the top of our page you can click into the option "Contact", then click onto "Store Retailers", then select International Distributors for complete list. Gail

Gail on 08/05/14 at 01:23 PM

Update, we emailed our distributor Prime Sportsgear in Holland and they replied back to us. As I do not know if this is who you are trying to call or if it is a retailer, but I will list their email and phone number for you. Gail Email: Phone # 00310152855700

scarfmace on 08/05/14 at 04:28 PM


I have been able to contact the storemanager, they will order the correct size in 118L and will exchange the jacket. Very happy about this, Thanks Gail and all others for your help.

Boriskrastev69 on 08/05/14 at 05:35 PM

Hello Scarfmace, Please read my messages related to 118 and 118L before you decide what to exchange for. in addition I strongly recommend that you pay a visit to the Brussel's Western shop and try 118 and 118l as they store both and just then order the exchange jacket in the proper for you style and size. Greetings and success!

Gail on 08/05/14 at 09:34 PM

I just want to confirm that at your height of 6' 3" you definitely need the 118L the 118 will be too short on you. Gail

scarfmace on 08/07/14 at 07:07 AM

Ok now I'm super confused, I went to the Western Shop in Brussels today, and they only carry the 118 and the 618 range no L but I thought, if I see wat a regular 118 does for fit, it can help me deside what size I need for a 118L. Anyway, I tried the 118L in size 38 on first because 38 is the size Schott recommended for the 118L. This jacket was to small... Nevermind it being to short for the arms (wich it was), I could barely move my shoulders. The size 40 fit about the same as my 618 with about I would say 1" extra belly room, which is ok. However, here comes the tricky part: The 118 in size 40 was almost perfect in lenght in the back. So now I fear that if I order a 118L in size 40, and they add 3" to the regular 118 that I just tried on, its gonna be way to long in the back... Is there anybody here who is about 6"3 and wears a size 118L in size 40 that can tell me how long the back is? I hate to ask the shop to exchange my jacket for a 118L only to find out that this is not right either...

Gail on 08/07/14 at 02:38 PM

I have a few suggestions, as every person has a different body structure and the fit of the jacket can fit differently on each individual. First view the photo on our website for the style 118 you can then view the length of the jacket on an actual model, the jacket should end below the belt line at the top of the hip. If you are 6' 3" and the jacket in a "Long" size is too long then you must have a short torso and very long legs. If you ride you do want to be sure the back is long enough for protection, also the sleeves need to longer to allow when arms are outstretched and the sleeve rides up. I suggest you contact Jerri in our customer service and request from her the spec sheets for the 618, 118 and the 118L, you can then compare the jacket's measurements between all 3 jackets. i have listed Jerri's email below for you. Gail Email:

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