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Why arent all Schott jackets made in the USA??

I cant tell you how happy I was to find a company that is based in the USA and makes their products in the USA.  I havent taken delivery of my Schott jacket yet, but I did make sure that it was one of the American made models before I had my leather retailer order one. 

What I do not understand is why a company that already makes most of its jackets in the USA and prides itself on US made products that are a large part of American culture and heritage would make any of its jackets overseas.  I do know that the customers who seem to buy Schott jackets dont seem to mind paying the price for top quality American made products, so I can only assume that cost savings was not one of the reasons for the overseas production decision.

I was wondering if anyone had an answer that would make sense to an average American consumer like myself as to why the decision was made to make certain products overseas and certain products in house in the USA.

Gail on 10/17/07 at 08:48 AM

Though we do import some of our styles, none would be from a slave labor country. Our company is celebrating our 90th. Anniversary which was founded on Made in the USA. We only wish in this day and age all our jackets could still be produced in the USA, but we are happy to say 60% still are. Compared to other companies we are still solid with production in the US and proud of it. Therefore we have the highest standards for any item we would import, with factory standards to our own. As it stands now, more than 60% of our production is in the USA.  We try to manufacture everything that we can in the USA, but one of the biggest factors preventing us from achieving that is that many of our US raw material suppliers are just not around anymore. We are thankful to be able to continue to provide “Made in USA” products to our customers, we are thankful that there are people who still care about these things, and we are thankful that we can keep our workforce going here in the USA. Gail

JLStorm on 10/17/07 at 01:48 PM

What I dont understand is why some jackets are imported but made of the same materials as a USA made jacket.  For example, G1S is imported, and the 233 is made in the USA.  They are both made of the same French antique lambskin, and they both cost around the same price.  What is the reason that the G1S isnt made in the USA?  I can plainly see that Schott isnt skimping on quality because they are using the same quality materials, and you arent doing to save money or build a less expensive jacket because you are charging roughly the same amount, so why make these jackets  outside of the us?

Jason_Schott on 10/18/07 at 05:00 PM

The issue of what to make in the USA and why we don't make everything in the USA is a very complex question with a number of different answers.  In some cases, the shrinking of the USA manufacturing industry has made finding raw materials in the USA more difficult, thereby reducing our competitive advantage in the ability to turn around production quickly.   If the raw materials have to be imported anyway, sometimes it's better to do the production offshore.  Additionally, it is simply cost prohibitive to produce some styles in this country.  When you compare the 233 and the G1 collection, you will notice that the G1 collection has many different versions some of which are more labor intensive, or allow us to add additional features like the screen printed satin linings and patches.  (We saw an opportunity to increase this part of our collection, so it made sense to set up a production avenue for all of these styles, and that production avenue happened to be outside the USA for many of the reasons I am explaining here).  Besides that, we should probably charge more for the 233.  While we are thankful that we have many customers who insist on buying only Made in the USA items, and we are incredibly proud of our factory and all of our employees here, unfortunately, we believe that there isn't enough of a market for us to offer USA only items.   One interesting note is that in Europe, which is a hugely important market for us, there are no country of origin labelling requirements.  Other companies get credit for having "Americana" jackets that people just assume were produced here, while few actually are.  I believe what's important is that when you see our name on an article of clothing you can rest assured that we have applied our stringent quality control standards regardless of where it's made and in the event that there is a problem, we are committed to provide you with the best customer service experience possible to rectify it.

castillian500 on 10/27/07 at 01:42 PM

What countries are you making these jackets in ?  It's got to say on the jacket doesn't it ?

Gail on 10/29/07 at 02:51 PM

In the USA all jackets must be labeled with origin, in european countries this is not a requirement. Most of our imported jackets are from China, manufactured to our specifications and materials. None of our imported jackets are manufactured in a slave labor country. Gail

castillian500 on 11/01/07 at 05:49 PM

Maybe the drop in the US dollar will help reduce costs in the US so Schott Jackets will at least hold their ground in terms of the models that are still made in the US.  Where are the imported Schott Jackets made anyway ?

Gail on 11/02/07 at 08:34 AM

Please see my previous reply in regards to our imported garments. Gail

reginald on 12/25/07 at 09:16 PM

reginald on 12/25/07 at 09:18 PM

hi gail, i received my 118 today, i normally wear 40, but i never had a huggy fit jacket, and my chest is pretty narrow, despite my wide shoulder (which makes my ordering jacket problematic), so i had a 38. the fit is, say, perfect, in its numerical sense, shorter sleeves than 651 or other biker jackets, looks on me like a rocker than a biker.

there is a problem though, there is a long loose thread sticking out from the sleeve, what should i do with it? i saw people raising this issue before

Gail on 12/26/07 at 12:29 PM

Dear Reg,

I answered your email on the same questions you have asked here on our blog. In regards to the the thread hanging from the sleeve, this is just a thread that was missed by the inspector, you can just clip the thread off. In regards to the sizing, in all your other jackets you purchased a size 40, yet in this jacket you purchased a size 38, which would be a very snug fit on you and a shorter sleeve. Our 651 has a longer back and sleeve length in the size 40 and is a different styled jacket. If the 651 fits you well in the length and sleeve you may need a 118L to provide the extra length you need. Gail

Snap on 01/11/08 at 09:41 PM

Is there a list available of which jackets are USA made?
I am in the market for a jacket but have ambitions of avoiding China imports of all types for many reasons.

bluesandbooze on 01/12/08 at 06:46 AM

Hi Snap, You should find the Schott site tells all! When you look in the product description it states where made and I have found it to be correct, with 585, 141, 118, etc., US made. You'll also find GAIL very informative. For Castillian500, a cheaper dollar wont help. US labour costs would initially stay the same as would, initially, US raw materials. But then international market forces could cause a demand for US raw materials and hence push up their price which could make the Schott product more expensive. Money Market forces are too complex and random to enable a forecast conclusion, except for one conclusion, the guy on the street suffers either via rising prices, rising/falling interest rates, falling wages, unemployment, but rarely falling price. We don't want to be going to the store to buy one loaf of bread with a wheelbarrow of dollars.

Snap on 01/12/08 at 10:03 AM

I'm not paying attention to Castil....
My issue with China is they've had a serious negative inpact on our construction industry by gobbling up the steel production, thereby doubling our steel costs in maybe 5 years or less. I've had buildings not built because of it.
Then they have no moral reservations about poisoning our toothpaste, our pet foods and our kids toys. I really don't care what the excuses are, they should be saying "no", we won't make those things that way.

We have open arms to that threat just because of too many people seeking the cheapest stuff they can find to buy. And we think our only threat is from the middle east....

So that is why I won't knowingly buy Chinese products, even if it's the last loaf of bread on the shelf.

Whatever the price, I'll do my part and buy American and try to keep my neighbor off the unemployment line and hope he might do the same for me.

wjacoby on 01/14/08 at 06:59 PM

To JL Storm, RE, made in America.

"I was wondering if anyone had an answer that would make sense to an average American consumer like myself as to why the decision was made to make certain products overseas and certain products in house in the USA".

 Once upon a time, a bunch of really sharp people got together and created a country called America.  Originally, anything that could be made here was given an equal footing against foreign competition via tarriffs on similar imported goods.  The tariffs protected Americans from competition and funded the government. 

But then someone had a better idea and decided that a few hundred million Americans should compete with a billion Chinese (or whoever). 

Thus was born the "Free Traitor".  To make up for this shortfall, the government also created the "Income Tax", and ever since then, a host of  other "brilliant" ideas which are harmful to this country.

You can thank our government for forcing American companies like Schott to outsource.  It's either that, downsize, or just go out of business.

Send your congress critter a letter and let them know if you don't like it.  I don't, and I have.  Probably puts me on some terrorist list, but I don't care.     

bluesandbooze on 01/15/08 at 09:15 AM

The answer, sadly, is that it comes down to price and not people!

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