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dear Gail,

 

after a certain amount of time - just searching without searching - I finally got a perfecto that fits. it's vintage, but how old : can you please have a look at the pictures of my perfecto to help me to "date" the jacket (late 70's?)?

the leather of the armparts is heavier than the one of back and front, there's no white label in the coin-pocket, the pocket-zippers close down, there's no pocket inside at all, the buckle doesn't seem to be the original one. this leads to my second question : is it possible to purchase over the schott company a "new-old" buckle at least fitting to the style of the jacket (618?) and how much would it cost to ship it to germany?

I'm already enjoying my perfecto, but I'd like to upgrade it 'cause I feel it's not right so.

thank you in advance, cordially,

 

ps70s.

 

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Gail on 03/15/17 at 07:59 AM

Based on the main Perfecto Bull label with the Schott NYC on the bottom, the jacket was produced between the late 70's to the mid-80's. Looking at the label it also tells me the linings are dirt and need to be cleaned to remove the dirt and sweat. Having the jacket professionally cleaned will prevent the linings and stitching from deteriorating and you will have a nice clean jacket to wear. Providing this jacket with a little TLC will provide many more years of wear. If you contact Jerri in our customer service she can help you with a replacement buckle. For this vintage jacket you would need the "Miter" corner buckle which was used at that time on our jackets. Jerri can help with advising you of the cost of a new buckle, her direct email is: Jerri@schottyc.com

Gail

ps70s on 03/15/17 at 10:12 AM

dear gail,

 

tlc-time is over, a week long of special formula care treatment later (300 ml were needed for three runs), the leather of the jacket is now really black and alive again. the lining of the jacket is actually in good shape, it has been already stitched/repaired once in a very professionnally way and another time in a less efficient way, but it doesn't matter, it's an opportunity for me to have further measures in taking care for the jacket. I already washed the lining, spare the label because of patina reason : even inside smells really fresh now...

thank you for your answer to my forum-request and the email-contact to your colleage jerri,

best regards,

ps70s.

 

one more thing, is this perfcto a 618?

 

 

 

Gail on 03/16/17 at 08:13 AM

The style would be the Steerhide leather style 618. Based on the repairs you have notedcon the lining it appears the quilt is already deteriorating from the dirt & sweat. Not sure what you have applied to the jacket, but only apply natural products to the leather. Never use a water repellent product or on e containing silicone. These products seal the leather and leather needs to breathe or it will dry rot. Store your jacket in a cool area in hot weather and never cover the jacket with plastic.

Gail

ps70s on 03/16/17 at 02:35 PM

dear gail,

 

thank you for advices. the leather care I used is a natural one, it's like shoe-polish, not liquid and from australia. not cheap, but very efficient, the leather of my jacket is now smooth and shiny (beside the fact the perfecto was really dry on arrival).

I actually don't get the point with the lining-description you made. the steplining is actually still intact, only the armpits area had to be sewed by the previous owner. otherwise it's ok. I wash it again today, the weather outside was ok (first real warm day and a bit windy) but even if it's clean it still has a rest of smelly something in the sleeves (bad, non ventilated possibly humid storage ...). I will wash it again.

I thaught about sizes and types of perfectos the other day, is it actually possible to purchase a perfecto taylored by schottnyc that is made just for myself? how much would cost a unique piece like this? jerri answered today, we're coming closer to the order.

 

best regards,

 

ps70s

Gail on 03/17/17 at 08:34 AM

I do not think washing the lining of the jacket again will help much. You noted the jacket has been repaired and sewn in the armpit area, which means the lining is deteriorating. The smell is from the sweat and body dirt from the previous owner. I can only suggest to have the jacket professionally cleaned, just looking at the label you know the linings is really, really dirty. Since the lining is tearing and smells you may just want to have a tailor replace the lining in the jacket if you want to refurbish this vintgae jacket.

 

Gail

ps70s on 03/18/17 at 05:48 PM

dear gail,

 

thank you for your answer, yes that's right, replacing the lining is be the better choice. besides the fact just the skeeves are still smelling odd. the cross-stitched lining is actually ok now. does schott do these kind of repair-works on vintage jackets? how much you such a  repair cost?

by the way, jerri send a new mail, she wants to get a corner miter buckle from the factory. I thaught, you're all sitting in the old factorybrickbuilding, maybe a romantic point of view of mine...

 

cordially,

 

ps7o's.

Gail on 03/19/17 at 07:52 AM

We can only accept repairs for jackets being sent into us within the Continental US. We do not accept repairs outside the USA. I am glad to hear Jerri has helped you with a replacement buckle for your jacket. Possibly post your location here on the forum, so other forum members that may be in your area can suggest a leather cleaner or tailor for you to use.

Gail

ps70s on 03/19/17 at 01:19 PM

 

dear gail,

 

I've never been in the u.s. and sadly in the next time any visit is planned. if I would bring the jacket to schott during a stay in nyc, would you agree to repair and send it back to europe? or maybe pick it up after a couple of days at the factory?

till now my experiences in leather cleaning was washing my trousers in the washingmachine and feed it still a little bit humid with my favourite leather formula care. which way would you consider to clean a perfecto jacket (you spoke about a small white tag that is missing in my jacket) but most important if it has to be a professionnal solution which solution should I actually avoid).

 

cordially,

 

ps70s

ps70s on 03/20/17 at 05:36 AM

dear Gail,

 

in your second mail you wrote me  "only apply natural products to the leather. never use a water repellent product or on e containing silicone" - I actually only use natural products, in this case too the result was good. but I never had to wash a entire jacket:  it seems to be difficult to find a professionnal cleaning firm that doesn't use chemicals in their washingmachines that could "seal the leather" as you wrote...should I try at home in my own washingmachine like I did with my leatherpants?

 

cordially,

 

ps70's

Gail on 03/20/17 at 08:14 AM

A professional leather cleaning will not seal the leather. The solutions they use on the jacket will not harm the leather, the process is purposely design not to seal the leather but to clean and condition the leather.

Gail

ps70s on 03/20/17 at 08:48 AM

dear gail,

 

thank you for your answer to my question, I will just send the jacket for a professionnal cleaning, end of the story, from a certain point you just need a decision I make now. because of lack of time I didn't visit the entire schottnyc.com website, I discover the place where you can order a custom made perfecto schott jacket. I presume it's there I can ask for the price of my next jacket.

cordially,

 

ps70's.

Gail on 03/21/17 at 08:55 AM

Yes, you can request a cost on having a custom jacket made. All custom jackets are at a higher cost and the price is based on the jacket style, materials, special trim requests, sizing and how extensive the  pattern changes are. All custom jackets are made on the individual's request and measurements, they are not returnable.

Gail

ps70s on 04/07/17 at 11:52 AM

 

dear gail,

the jacket came back from the professionnal cleaning today, thank you for your piece of advice, the result is very good, it doesn't smell odd anymore and they're neither major nor minor harms to the item. it cost me 65 bucks, a necessary investition as it appears now. the jacket feels lighter, I presume dirty has a weight too and it's - in this case too - quite noticeable. the schott label with the bull on it kept its patina, an important detail for me.

in one of my first mail to you I describe the leather of the sleeves of the perfecto as heavier than the rest of the jacket : it's now more like the same actually, it was certainly the dirt of the last 35 years. the jacket seems to have been used on a regular basis by the previous owner but during this time he really took care of it. the quality of the schott product and his care give me the opportunity to wear a unique piece of clothes today and to carry on now of course. last step, sewing the corner miter buckle you gave me (thank you again for that) and it's finally ready.

cordially,

ps70's

Gail on 04/08/17 at 07:43 AM

I am so happy to hear you took my advice had the jacket professionally cleaned and is now a refurbished vintage jacket with the results you were looking for. Jackets that have not been ever professionally cleaned which I think this is one of those jackets can take on a different feel of the leather. Now that the jacket has been cleaned and conditioned the more normal feel of the leather has returned. Once you add the original style Miter buckle you will have a fully refurbished jacket that will last for many more years. 

Gail

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