at 06:07 AM
i think its done to cut costs! no doubt this will elicit a fuller explanation!
at 02:50 PM
The graded sizing of small, medium, large etc. is a jacket not made to a actual chest size. Graded sizes are usually 2 sizes graded together example a size large would be a 42 - 44. As with any jacket we offer if you are unsure of your size, just email me to confirm the size you would need in the jacket you want to purchase. gail
at 06:53 PM
Hearing that makes sense!
check out www.grandprixlegends.com - they use the S M L XL sizing system and there seems to be no cross-reference to the Schott USA sizing system in inches for some of their jackets.
Gail - are some of the jackets from Grand Prix Legends made by Schott for import to the UK or Europe? They have at least 2 styles which are not carried in the Schott website. I'm afraid I can't link to those jackets using this messaging system.
Thanks for your help.
at 02:41 PM
Our styles do differ internationally, our distributors in the diffeernt countries select items they feel are in demand in style bt their customers. The website you have listed I an not familar with as our distributor for each country handled the disribution to their accounts. As in the US they offer both made in the USA and imported item in their line of jackets. Gail
at 05:28 PM
I tend to reference the Schott US site, so anything I don't recognise, I assume it's a fake!
Grand Prix Legends are internet order only, but i can't find either of the two jackets anywhere listed in the States:
at 11:50 AM
Regarding the listed length of jackets, where is the measurement taken from? For example, a 618 is listed at 24 inches, a 118 is listed as 25 inches, and a 125 is listed as 26 inches.
Is this measured at the front, sides, back? From where to where?
at 02:17 PM
In my experience, the length listed for a jacket is nearly always from collar seam at the back of the neck to the bottom of the jacket. Any other measurement is incorrect, since you want to know the length of the body of the jacket, and if you include the collar itself (up, down?) in the measurement, it just skews the estimate of how the jacket will fit.
If any other length is given it is labeled specifically as front length,etc. Chest measurements are usually given as the measurement from armpit to armpit across the jacket front as it lays flat. Some people double this measurement. Shoulder measurement is taken straight across the back of the jacket from the top of the shoulder seam on one side across to the other side.
All the measurements that I've seen on Schott's site appear to represent the back length as described.
at 05:15 AM
So, a 25 inch 118 would measure one inch longer than a 24 inch 618 along the back, and presumably, the rest of the body would be proportionally longer as well?
What about the 125, with its "kidney extension" (or duck tail) in the back? Is this where its 26 inch length comes from, or is the body also proportionally one inch longer than a 118?
at 01:14 PM
Artic & Ron525,
Artic, the 2 pictures you have posted are jackets for European distribution, selected by our distributors. They are are not made in our USA factory.
Ron525, this is to confirm "mrpoizun" is correct the back length of a jacket is measurede from under the collar seam to bottom of jacket. Style such as the 125 with a kidney back extension will be longer in the back then the front of the jacket.
at 08:38 PM
Thanks Gail, I have just one more question regarding sizing and fit.....if we disregard the kidney extension on the 125, and just consider it as a Perfecto with a removeable liner and no belt, is it cut more like a 118 or a 618?
Would one order it in their regular size, or one size larger?
at 08:47 PM
Thanks for clarifying this Gail.
Are the European jackets made with the same quality of steerhide or naked cowhide? I didn't know that there was another Schott factory but it's good to know that they are indeed made in Europe, so it's likely that the S M L XL XXL sizes are European guess sizes, rather than Schott sizes from the vintage templates.
I think I'll stick to the US size system. I know which ones fit now.
at 11:59 AM
Ron 521, the style 125 is an updated fit and you would order in your actual chest size. it is very comaptible to the 118 fit, except the back is 1" longer on the 125.
Artic, we do not have another factory in Europe, our distributors in Europe contract a factory to make these styles for our distributors. All materials and fit will be approved by our distributor and Schott before they place orders to contract a factory to produce these jackets for them.