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Mink Oil Polish or Liquid?

Just wondering which is recommended....  I saw that someone had a problem with a white residue which they couldn't get rid of.... Don't want to ruin my Schott....!

Gail on 12/02/08 at 01:33 PM

We always caution and to be sure to test any product before applying something to a leather item. If you apply mink oit either liquid or polish should be OK if applied sparingly. Gail

zebach on 12/02/08 at 07:27 PM

I've used Wesco Bee Oil on a bunch of leather products, like boots, jackets, and couches. Bee Oil is a Leather Primer Restorer used to protect leather shoes, boots, gloves, coats, saddles, bridles, harnesses, baseball gloves - most leather goods which are subject to moisture, sun, general weather damage and other degrading conditions. Always try on a small inconspicuous area to test result before applying overall. Bee Oil will initially darken most leathers. Once dry, leather will usually lighten up to original color. Suedes, roughout and dry finished leathers may be permanently darkened. I then use Wesco Bee Seal Plus which conditions and waterproofs leather. Recently I've used Bee Oil on a Schott style 100 which was made in the mid-90's and now the leather is restored and looks brand new, except that it is softer and supple from being broken in. I started using Wesco Bee Oil after purchasing their Boss (Engineer / Motorcycle) boots back in '93, and have been using it ever since. Wesco suggests using Mink Oil on their boots that will be stored for an extended period of time. Over long periods, leather seems to dry out but can be restored easily with the proper dressings and care. If leather gets wet, I've read that it's best to let it dry at room temperature and without heat. With proper care my leather items will probably outlive me!  Motorcycles, Perfectos and Wescos sound like a great combination to me.

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zebach on 12/02/08 at 07:31 PM

Like Gail says, use these types of conditioners sparingly.  I've learned that a little really goes a long way...

zebach on 12/06/08 at 06:18 PM

The previous owner advised the Schott 117 really likes Lexol for taking care of the leather and that you can get it at shoe repair places - I'll give it a try. The 117 jacket was made with Naked Cowhide Leather, looks great and has an excellent patina. Anyone ever used Lexol?

REMARKSD on 12/06/08 at 11:15 PM

Lexol use -- I have used Lexol for the past three years as a conditioner/cleaner (about once a year) on all of my leather jackets.  It is fantastic.  I place them on a plastic hanger (free hanging) -- spray on a small section at a time and work it in with clean white - no dye - paper towels.  Lexol really restores the natural gloss of the leather and is a great protectant.  After applying Lexol, I let the jacket dry for about a day. 

Flattop on 12/07/08 at 09:37 AM

Another Lexol fan here! Wesco boots too for that matter :-)

Scooby on 12/08/08 at 01:18 PM

I used Lexol on my original 618 from '86 last night for the first time. It got soaked through twice in one week about two years ago and the sleeves stiffened up. Just checked it out and it seems to be doing better. Will let it sit for a day and see how it looks. I don't want to overuse the Lexol, though I imagine the leather may be pretty thirsty for conditioner. Glad to hear others like Lexol for our Schotts.

CLUTTERKNIVES on 12/09/08 at 02:35 PM

i've used a number of products on leather over the years, mothers, bick 4, etc..  i even rubbed some bees wax based sno-seal into my old, dry brooks motorcycle jacket, heated it up with a hair drier, and buffed it off, using a clean cotton cloth.  it looked, and felt, damn good.  this also works well on old leather boots.  however, when my schott 689h got to be a year old and began to look like it might benefit from a light cleaning, none of my old tricks really felt like the right way to go.  i was telling a friend this, and he advised me to go buy a tub of pecards motorcycle leather dressing.   i wiped a bit of pecards all over my jacket, waited awhile, and then buffed it with a cotton rag.  my jacket was shiney again, and a bit softer too.  i'm completely impressed with this pecards.  if my jacket looks like it needs it next year, i'll use it again. 

ppdl on 12/09/08 at 04:35 PM

I use products for leather saddle and Bridle.

All my jackets or Carolina boots love it !

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42north on 12/10/08 at 09:32 PM

New guy here, but wanted to state I have been using Obenauf's leather oil on my jacket for several years and it is great stuff.  It will soften and restore the leather and is organic.  I use it on jackets, boots, belts, gloves etc.  Their web page has lots of information on leather care.  They also make a  cream for heavy duty purposes.   Just search for Obenaufs on the internet as that is the only way to buy it. 

This is from their web page, "Originally designed to preserve & protect the boots of firefighters exposed to extreme conditions, Obenauf's remarkable leather care products use natural oils, beeswax, and propolis in a unique, scientific approach that not only preserves, protects, and waterproofs your valuable leather, but can also restore faded, dry, and neglected items."

jnewell on 01/11/09 at 10:17 AM

Thought I'd contribute a practical data point to this thread.  I recently used one of my favorite products, Bee Natural Mink Oil Creme, to my 585.  Short version: great results but hours of work.  Color commentary: Gail is probably smiling, or maybe giggling, or possibly thinking something along the lines of "I told you so."  :-) 

 

Longer version: using this product on a jacket means investing a lot of work.  The product has far more wax in it than I had realized, and you need a good, clean brush to work it into the seams evenly (hand rubbing will not work).  You also need good, clean brushes to remove the excess surface was left after applying the cream.  Not doing this will result in an unattractive and somewhat tacky white wax buildup on the leather that probably isn't good because it will hold dirt that can wear the leather and stitching.  It might also possibly dry the leather if it's left on.  So, although the end result is very attractive, it's a very time-consuming process to do well.  Definitely not a project to undertake if you're tight on time or planning to walk out the door in the jacket in the next hour or few.

wolverine on 01/14/09 at 08:18 AM

Nicely put Jnewell...

 

The key with any product is taking off the excess!!!  Lexol is very easy to use, it spreads evenly BUT you do not want this stuff to dry... even the directions on the bottle say to wipe off the excess in 5 minutes.  If you leave Lexol for hours or a day you will have a jacket that feels sticky and it will attract dust. 

 

If you have an older jacket that is starting to get stiff or something new out of heavy horsehide I have had good results using 100% Neatsfoot oil.  Because this is literaly 100% oil, you can leave it on for a day and really let it soak in before removing the "extra"...it does not dry the way Lexol will.   I used a 2" "chip" paint brush to apply the oil and found that parts of the jacket need a second coat...you can see this because during the application parts of the jacket look wet while others are dry because the leather has sucked up the oil.

 

After suffering for about a year  with my horsehide "Tracker" and trying to condition it with Lexol, I used the Neatsfoot oil and this stuff broke in the jacket.  It became easier to move in and didn't feel like I was folding up 5 pound weights when I lifted my arms up. 

 

JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT THERE IS A TRADE OFF WHEN IT COMES TO CONDITIONING YOUR LEATHER WITH ANY PRODUCT...YOU ARE MAKING THE LEATHER SOFTER, ALTERING THE NATURAL FIBERS OF THE HIDE AND TAKING AWAY SOME OF ITS ABILITY TO WITHSTAND TEARING AND WEAR THROUGH.

 

GO SCHOTT

 

Wolverine

42north on 01/14/09 at 09:41 AM

That is the problem with Neatsfoot, it damages the leather.  It is very old school.  Obenaufs' is newer technology leather care and will restore and soften the leather by replacing lost oils, similar to Lexol but with different technology.  I made a vintage Schott jacket soft and wearable again using Obenauf's.  It also looked a lot better.   Like Neatsfoot you can let it soak in for a day, they recommend 2 coats an hour apart.  I use it for heavy leather clothes that see hard use,dark leather items and shoes.  The leather will initally be very dark from the oil, but return closer to it's original appearance after a few days.   www.obenaufs.com

I like Lexol for lighter colored leathers, car seats, home furniture, and my wife's purses that are lighter in color.    

Another good product for jackets is Black Rock Leather N'Rich which is actually recommended by Avirex.  It is a Carnuba wax based paste that gives a good shine but will leave some white residue in seams etc if not carefull rubbing it out. 

jnewell on 01/14/09 at 10:39 AM

Strongly agree about getting excess Lexol off.

I don't claim that the following is good practice for Schott jackets, but I used to do a lot of living history work and made (and used) a lot of leather gear of many different kinds.  Veggie-tanned leather did really well with olive oil.  It darkened the leather without the excess softening of even pure, 100% neatsfoot oil, and finding pure neatsfoot oil is not that easy - it is almost always mixed with various petroleum or other products (neatsfoot oil "compound," when labeled honestly) that make it an even worse choice.

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