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Horsehide differences between 618hh and 613sh?

As the title asks, are there any differences between 618hh and 613sh?

Dannyk on 01/02/21 at 06:59 AM

As far as I know the 613SH is just a bit thicker. The 618HH is around 2.5-3.0oz, while the 613SH is 3.0-3.5oz. I've owned both. I stupidly traded the 613SH away. In retrospect I should kept that one. It's not a tank like Lost Worlds or Vanson Competion Weight but noticeably thicker than the 618 and after some wear gets really nice creasing. 

RanchoNovalto on 01/04/21 at 01:21 PM

DANYK - I have seen your posts at Fedora Lounge on this subject and I was wondering myself. I nealy bought a 613sh early last year at the San Franisco store but settled for a P613S as I was looking for a heavier hide. I recently did ping the support at Schott as I am interested in a 618hh and Denise send me the following answer:

Denise C
  Mon, 12/28/20 5:15 pm  
 
  Thank you for your inquiry. Both styles 618HH and 613SH are from the same tannery, however the hides could be from different lots. This does not change the thickness of the leathers, both are considered heavy weight.

This would lead me to believe that you were lucky and your 613sh might have just been made from a heavier set of hides. I wish there would be a 618 in CXL.

Dannyk on 01/04/21 at 02:07 PM

Hmmm in the overview section of the 613SH it lists 3-3.5oz. The overview of the 618HH doesnt list it anymore it appears but when I bought mine it was listed simply at 3. And there was a noticeable difference in the thickness. Mind you this was 2 years ago. So they must have changed the 618hh to a different hide. I also wonder why they changed the overview section of it? 

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