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...And Yet Another Brando/The Wild One Thread

From what I can gather, the jacket worn by Marlon Brando in The Wild One was a Schott Perfecto One Star, model #618 in black steerhide in 1.2 to 1.4mm thick 3-ounce leather. I just won a Schott Perfecto on eBay, and I would like to replicate 'The Wild One' jacket as much as possible.

 

First off, the stars on the epaulettes are needed. Can anyone tell what other mods may be necessary?

 

Next, my jacket will be shipped with no buckle (since it is missing.) Is anyone aware of a place I could get a nice reproduction of the film buckle?

 

Finally, the B.R.M.C. paint on the back will need to be replicated. We all know that this means the Black Rebel Motorcycle Club, but unfortunately a rock band swiped the name and has pretty much monopolized the Google search. I was wondering if anyone knows where I can have this art added to my jacket.

 

I am looking for some 'The Wild Ones' experts with a good set of eyes for my site as well that can help identify some of the nuances for replicating this jacket.

 

http://filmjackets.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=56

 

Thanks in advance.

Gail on 07/23/07 at 11:04 AM

I can try and help you replace the buckle and stars needed on the jacket. You can email me at gail@schottnyc.com  Gail

Rick on 07/23/07 at 12:55 PM

Thank you Gail. I will be receiving the jacket in a few days and then I can take an inventory of what the jacket may need. I appreciate the help.

Rick on 07/27/07 at 05:32 AM

UPDATE:

 

I received the jacket today and it is too tight. I will need to find another jacket in a size 44. If I wanted to get the closest thing to a Brando jacket from the Wild One, what would you suggest that I look for?

 

The movie was made in 1953, so an early 1950's jacket should be close, right. I tried Ghost Motor Clothes for a genuine vintage piece and I can no longer find their site. Cragg said that they were updating the site soon, but it seems to have vanished.

 

I am in no hurry, but there have been some discrepancies between some of the jackets I have seen and I am not sure if each is unique - for example, the star placing on the epaulettes - or the pattern has changed slightly. (Note that Brando's jacket had the star virtually in the middle of the epaulettes.)

WildOne002.jpg WildOne008.jpg WildOne011.jpg

Gail on 07/27/07 at 08:49 AM

Dear Rick, Just a note on the sizing, if you have been reading some blog messages and have checked on our website you probably know that the older jackets are cut smaller and you need to purchase the jacket one size larger then your chest size. Even the jackets currently being produced that are cut on our vinatge patterns need to be ordered one size larger.  Also all motorcycle jackets taper in at the waist, so your waist size also reflects the size you would need if your waist is a little large. Gail

Rick on 07/27/07 at 09:54 AM

Thanks Gail. The jacket is all around tight, but mostly at the shoulders and under the arms. I measured at a 41" chest, so I was thinking a 42 might work. It didn't. LOL. Not too bad if worn open, but I should be able to zip it from time to time.

Jett129 on 09/21/07 at 07:08 PM

Rick I have one of the 75th Anniversary jackets that I'm looking to sell.This may be of interest to you.It's a size 46.--Jett

Rick on 09/22/07 at 07:03 PM

Thanks Jett129, but I just won a jacket on ebay. Anything larger than a 44 will be too long for me. The 44 is pushing it... I really appreciate the offer though.

monolith21 on 02/22/08 at 02:27 AM

Quick question on this. Are the jackets still made in 1.2 to 1.4mm thick 3-ounce leather? The jacket in the film has a very distinct look to it. It looks pretty thin!



wolverine on 02/23/08 at 02:29 PM

Rick,

Forget about sizes with these jackets...they vary too much between style #, age and which client, Beck, Harley, Legendary, Americaya, etc. that the jacket was made for(Schott makes jackets for lots of other companies now and in the past) . 

Take the jacket you just bought off e-bay and measure pit to pit (zip jacket, measure across, stretch jacket a little ,note if jacket has INSULATED lining or just thin satin lining)  sleeve length (top of shoulder seam to cuff, outside)  across back panel (note if jacket has bi-swing panel or not),  across waist  and length (collar seam to bottom hem)

Armed with this info you can then upsize or downsize in certain areas to get what will fit (also remember that your size will change depending on what you wear underneath).  If the jacket is uninsulated this usually adds about a size to the chest measure (When you compare two jackets with the same pit to pit measure and only one has insulation. )  Ideally you want to try on a bunch of jackets and then find one that fits you well, take careful measures of it and then look for these measures when you pick out your next jacket.  I hope this helps....

Good luck,

Wolverine

crippe on 02/27/08 at 02:49 AM

Rick, Perfectos are supposed to fit snug around the shoulders/chest. Brando only wore a t-shirt under his jacket in the movie.

 

/Chris

leathertime on 02/27/08 at 03:22 PM

I still find it strangely interesting that Brando's jacket has snaps on the collar, and rectangular, sharply pointed shoulder epaulettes, with the stars in the middle. 

Perfectos of that era ( I have one)  had no collar snaps, and the epaulettes tapered down to a rounded end, with the stars located closer to the shoulder.

The buckle does resemble a Perfecto of that era, though.

So, I've tallied 1 positive and 3 negatives that Brando's jacket is an actual Perfecto, and not a cheaper knock-off of a Perfecto.

 

 

tim on 02/27/08 at 10:49 PM

I think this was brought up before, many moons ago...I believe that either Gail or Jason said that it was a Schott but made for the movie by theirs (or the movie's) costume dept or that it was a "heavily modified" Schott. They get alot of requests for Costume jackets and hey, if a movie producer is willing to pay enough for a certain custom jacket, I'm sure that Schott is more than willing to oblige. Money talks...... 

cyrusjawahar on 03/02/08 at 12:26 PM

From this wikapedia link   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfecto_motorcycle_jacket

"A few years later the company introduced the 618 which was identical to the 613 except for the stars. This was the style that Marlon Brando wore in the movie The Wild One. The stars on the epaulettes and the snaps on the collar of his jacket were not original, but added to the jacket. As tim said. the 618 was modified to look like a 613 for the movie. This would explain the movie added snaps and the location of the stars.

cyrusjawahar on 03/02/08 at 12:42 PM

Sorry. Correction to my last statement. Brando wore a 618 which had factory collar snaps. The movie added the stars to make it look like the 613 one star. If you want the "Brando" jacket, you would want a 618 and not a one star 613.

crippe on 03/04/08 at 10:16 AM

No, the 618 didn't have snaps on the collar in the 1950's. It was THE SAME as the 613 except for the stars. Snaps on the 618 collar appeared in the mid 1980's. On Brando's jacket the collar snaps and stars were added. Schott NYC make custom jackets now, I'm pretty sure they could make a Brando replica...

 

/Chris

 

 

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